Is Calvinism All You Talk About?

Hey Leighton, is Calvinism all you talk about?!?

Because Dr. Leighton Flowers has created a blog and podcast dedicated to addressing the issue of Calvinism, especially as it is related to its recent rise in popularity within his own denomination (Southern Baptists), he is sometimes accused of being imbalanced or obsessed with this one topic. This is an understandable perception if all you know of Leighton is through his popular Soteriology 101 podcast, but the short video below should help you to better understand Leighton’s motives and ministry.

Here are a list of the ministry’s websites that Dr. Flowers oversees and/or works with on a regular basis:

www.texasbaptists.org

www.texasapologetics.com

www.supersummer.com

www.youthevangelism.com

www.syatp.org

A listener sent in this satire article, inspired by the Babylonian Bee, which demonstrates the fallacious manner in which some of Dr. Flowers’ opponents have attempted to dismiss his views… Enjoy!


THE PLAGUE OF “ONE-STRING BANJOS”

(Satire article submitted by a listener)

Thanks to the objective and reasoned discernment of Dr. James White, a popular Christian apologist, the serious epidemic of dangerous banjos with only one string have been brought to the attention of at least a dozen or so people. Of course, we are not talking about actual banjos here. We are talking about “theological bloggers” who have the audacity to create web sites or social media pages that have a limited focus.  Rather than including all sorts of random and tediously mundane information about the bloggers everyday life, some rogue theologians have the gaul to create pages that cover one particular subject of interest.  It is quite appalling that the World Wide Web even allows this type of catastrophic particularity and focus!

baloneyDr. White is working tirelessly to stem the tide of the “one-string banjos” by commenting on everything from bike rides to bow ties throughout his day. One faithful White fan expressed his appreciation to the great apologist, saying, “Dr. White thank you for not just having one, two or even three strings, but thousands of them for us to read about throughout our otherwise boring lives. You give us a reason to keep coming back.”

One particularly notable offender that White has regularly ridiculed for his “one-stringed” ways is Dr. Leighton Flowers of Soteriology101.com. This theologian turned blogger has a wife and four kids, he regularly preaches at a large church, serves as an Adjunct Professor, and the Director of Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists where he oversees literally dozens of evangelistic and apologetic events throughout the year, yet he has the unmitigated gaul not to tell us about all of this on his Soteriology blog or social media pages!

Oh, it gets worse! Our investigative reporter learned just last week that Dr. Flowers rode his bike for over an hour and did not even tweet about it!  (Well, he might have, but we only read his Soteriology 101 twitter feed, so we assume he DID NOT!) When will this madness stop?!

Flowers Soteriology blog was created to address the major soteriological controversy between Calvinists and Traditionalists in the Southern Baptist Convention, as that was the topic of his doctoral dissertation, but followers have come to expect a certain level of disclosure from theological bloggers. Just what is Dr. Flowers trying to hide?!

Other obvious “one-string” offenders are the creators of monergism.com, calvinistcorner.com, effectualgrace.com, reformationtheology.com, reformedbaptistblog.com, and many others.  We reached out to Dr. White to get his comments on these “one-string banjos,” but we still have not received a response.  We are sure, however, that they will each receive a thorough tongue thrashing from the great apologist; after all, we know that Dr. White is nothing if not objective and impartial in his criticism of others.

20 thoughts on “Is Calvinism All You Talk About?

  1. Leighton:

    When I saw the title “Is Calvinism all you talk about?” I thought for sure you were going to comment on the YRR, cage-rage, young bucks out there who ONLY talk about Calvinism.

    Well done to illustrate that of course you address Calvinism on the S101 site since that is what it is there for!

    Now…back to cage-ragers. I go to look up books on amazon and read the reviews. Be assured that if the book smacks of Arminianism, “leaving Calvinism”, “free will”, open theology, or any related topic….that young bucks have hurried to the “review” page to give it one star.

    I have found everything from one star reviews saying “heresy!” to others who cut-n-paste a looooong diatribe on how Calvinism is the only answer with links to monergism.com and others.

    This is not only upsetting but a bit dishonest since they one-star it and give a “review” even though they clearly have not read the book.

    But ….no means are out of bounds when defending God’s glory, no?!

    This is a much milder version than Calvin’s millstone-dunking tactic anyway…..

    And besides, if they put those (dishonest) reviews on there, they were predetermined to do so anyway so who am I to argue!?

  2. “One particularly notable offender that White has regularly ridiculed for his “one-stringed” ways is Dr. Leighton Flowers of Soteriology101.com.”

    So, why is that an issue for anyone? Focus on one subject is not a crime, is it?

  3. Thank You for your writings on Calvinism.We have just found your podcast and blog. My husband is the pastor a small Baptist in rural Wisconsin. We fellowship with General Association Regular Baptist. We have 40 to 60 people each Sunday. Two of the families are strong “New Calvinist”, that is they are pushing their viewpoint continually. To the point that our adult Sunday school teacher is fearful. We have stopped our weeknight men’s and women’s bible study because in the men’s study every verse was made to prove the doctrine of the elect. My husband and the deacons have an inside joke that even the verse “Christ wept” would be interpreted as He wept for only the elect. So, when I saw the title “Is Calvinism All You Talk About?”, I thought you might be addressing this problem. I would be happy if Calvinism is all you addressed. I found it interesting that the Southern Baptist are also struggling with this “New Calvinist”. I am 66 years old and have been married to my present husband for 6 years. For most of my Christian life, I have been a Southern Baptist. I rarely recall any talk of Calvinism in any of the churches I attended. It was only after becoming involved with this church that I educated myself as to the beliefs of Calvinism. I struggle as to why they want to tear Baptist Churches apart or change their doctrinal statement.Why not be happy with a domination of their own. My husband is a gentle loving man and has dealt with these men as gently as he can. It has made us seek out and defend our faith which means we must dig into scripture. This, of course, is a good thing. We will continue to check your blog and podcast to solidify our stand on God’ truth. Thank you for your biblical and loving insight into this topic.

    1. GramaJ<
      I am so sorry to hear this!

      These new Calvinist may just split the church because they are seldom satisfied unless all are adopting "the doctrines of Grace." (which is kinda ironic right?). This might be there cage-phase….. where all they can do it talk about it and often it is equated to conversion itself.

      Have a look at the posts and the comments and you will see all the scriptural foundation you need to kindly answer the new zealots.

  4. Calvinism is a huge problem, so there is nothing wrong with a speciality page for it. Just like there are specialist doctors. Jesus said, the healthy don’t need a physician, but the sick. Mat 9:12

  5. Why there are those who were threatened and intimidated if they disagree with the doctrines brought by the Calvinists?
    Calvinists on the other hand is never threatened by anyone who may oppose what be believed are the truths revealed by the Scriptures.

    1. I wouldn’t agree with that. I had an incident at my church just yesterday about some new calvinists who invited our pastor (who is apparently one as well based on our observations of his sermons and the way he handles church activities) out for lunch and brought up my facebook post about a certain verse that when read plainly meant salvation being offered for all (I am quite aware that not all will be saved, but I believe it is offered for all and yes, I am not a calvinist). I DID NOT by any means put my interpretation of it as to not cause conflict. What’s also to know is that these new calvinists post verses online with calvinist interpretations of it. Anyway, they did bring up my facebook post because our pastor said so and I was instructed to REFRAIN from posting verses as to not offend the other camp. One of them also messaged me about that verse I posted and tried to bring me in. If this is not a clear example of them being threatened, that I don’t know what it is.

      1. Welcome proflnx,

        Yes “their” verses (40-50) mean what they say….and the rest of the Bible must be filtered by them. “Our” verses (basically the whole of the Bible) do not mean what the seem to clearly mean.

        That is how ideologies work.

      2. FOH writes, ” “Our” verses (basically the whole of the Bible) do not mean what the seem to clearly mean.”

        That’s because you cut out the verses in your Bible that explain how faith is required for one to respond to salvation message. “Your” verses speak of a person being called to repentance and belief and Calvinist point out that such calling in ineffective without faith – a point that you deny..

      3. pr0fLNX writes, “a certain verse that when read plainly meant salvation being offered for all (I am quite aware that not all will be saved, but I believe it is offered for all …)”

        Jesus said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel,” but the gospel is a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to non-Jews. This is because neither has faith. So, we understand that a person must have faith before he can respond positively to the gospel. We know that all who physically “hear” the gospel in a church service, or otherwise, do not receive faith and do not respond to the gospel in faith. Those who do are able to do so because the Holy Spirit first regenerates them and then God gives them faith – this results in a positive response to the gospel.

        I don’t know what verse you cited, but the Calvinists, and even you, should understand that the preaching of the gospel is ineffective without faith being present. Don’t know why they would get upset with you.

  6. FOH argues that : Faith is not a gift from God even if the scriptures teaches that doctrine. He insist his own self generated faith that is sin infected. Actually, Faith does not save. Christ is the One who saves not faith. Faith is only a medium for which man is able to connect to God by the time God provides this gift after the spiritually dead fallen man has been regenerated by God. Man as an imperfect carrier of all the God given gifts including faith cannot become perfectly faithful in his performance to take care of them. There are shipwreck faith as mentioned in I Tim. 1:19-20, but this is not a problem because God being the author and finisher of faith can even restore it. In the book of Philippians it is written : “The good work which God has started in you, He is going to finish it until the day of Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ’s death covers the SIN of the unbelief of the sinful elect of God. He died for this sin, so.. even if the elect may reject the offer. He cannot as an elect. Why? because it is brought to him irresistibly.

    I know BR.D will be quick to respond bringing on the table the doctrine loaded in his backpack about determinism, that God is both the author of Good and Evil due to his dispute with us about the doctrine that God is in control of everything. I can agree that God is the author of good but not of evil. Good and Evil cannot be mixed together for us to have a HOLY God.

    For me, that idea of ours that God is the one who controls everything is still accomplished even if God in most of the time deals with man in a natural way using their will to disobey, God will still be able to get all what He wants in the final dead end result. When Eve was tempted by the serpent, God just watched and did not intervene to abort Eve’s disobedience, why? because that act of Eve was part of His long blue print plan that needs to be accomplished.

    I guess Calvinism Is all you Talk about because we bring to the table solid doctrines of the grace of God that distinguishes us from other groups. Others can’t afford to dismantle it so the alternative is to step out and to paint a very bad image to the public concerning us.

    1. jtleosala
      Good and Evil cannot be mixed together for us to have a HOLY

      br.d
      Interesting language here JT!
      Where did anyone here indicate that in Calvinism good and evil are “mixed together”
      What has been stated – is that in the Gnostic / NeoPlatonist system – good and evil are “Co-Equal”, “Co-Necessary” and “Co-Complimentary”.

      I find it informative that two times, I provided quotes for you from Augustine and Jon Edwards – to show how that is the case – and both times you seem to have ignored them.

      And the fact that so many things in Calvinism appear in “Good-Evil” pairs should serve as a RED-FLAG to any THINKING Christian.

      Is it more TRUTHFUL to call Calvinism “doctrines of grace” or to call it “doctrines of GOOD-EVIL”?
      The reason Calvinists call it “doctrines of grace” is a way to de-emphasis the evil aspect of the system.

      Thus it totally makes sense that Sin, Evil and Eternal torment in a lake of fire – (as well as salvation) are all GIFTS from Calvin’s god. He is a “Good-Evil” THEOS.

    2. jtleosala
      For me, that idea of ours that God is the one who controls everything is still accomplished even if God in most of the time deals with man in a natural way using their will to disobey,

      br.d
      This is deceptive language.

      “deals with man in a natural way” is simply language designed to HIDE the fact that Calvin’s god DOES NOT PERMIT man to be/do anything other than what Calvin’s god DECREES.

      And man has ABSOLUTELY no say in any matter.

      Calvin’s god Determines *ALL* things – leaving NOTHING left over for the creature to determine.

      Calvinists are taught to tell select truths – while strategically HIDING the WHOLE TRUTH.

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